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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

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  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  All or nothing

  This is an excellent topic... I was a born in and totally believed I would not die. One of my first doubts was why would I be priveledged to live forever just because I was born in...which led to the doubt that God would destroy non Jws...didn't seem like perfect justice to me... I agree with you dunedain it is really hard to swallow the society induced prohibition on having children and realizing that was a fatal mistake too late...problem for me now in my 40s is it too late? and I'm so screwed up about what I really believe- what would I teach a child- If I have no clue?? Children of the world are taught from a young age to accept death as a natural part of life...children raised in this cult as it was well said already are taught that it is a lack of faith... I really needed to hear that tonight because it makes me realize how very screwed up this cult is...thank you everyone for all your comments...I wish I could properly introduce myself and tell my story but I am not ready to be d-fed due to all our family in... 😔
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  Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  besides being raised in the religion , why do people become jws?

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  My parents converted in their 20's back in late 70's. They had been raised Catholic and the "truth" had the ring of truth and bible understanding they were craving. They were hippies and had this idealistic view of the future that the paradise hope fed for them then. The problem is that the religion they joined then is NOT the religion that it is now...
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  60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. experiences

  60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

  my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

  my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

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  All or nothing

  Thank you for your post. I felt the same way about leaving, if not now when? I thought for sure I would miss it. But I don't, I feel a calm peace that the obligation is not there. I am happy for you that you do have some family you are out with. We are the only ones awake In our family...any advise on how to help family see things our way? I hate seeing them wasting their precious time and life...
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  HI corruptgirl thanks for your response- somehow I missed your intro and I just got to read it! Very inspiring. I am aware of the problems with disorder in Spanish congregations. That actually probably explains why they didn't know what the elder book says. Anyway, I hope the outcome that is best for your family is what happens tomorrow. Perhaps someone you care about will read COC from the Facebook post and see the light.😉
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  All or nothing

  Here is my 2 cents, we have seen first hand, the elders follow what rules they choose to, and ignore the ones that suit them. It bothers them that you are throwing in their faces that they aren't following the rules. They will probably start trolling these sites to catch you posting on here. I have followed your posts and you have said a lot of personal info that those who know you will be able to identify you. Battle of who is right begins...I think meeting with them will be difficult unless you have great acting skills...they really don't want to gain their brother...they want to prove you are disloyal...this is evident of how quick they pulled the JC out of the holster...
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  Brother & Sister-in-Law Return to Kingdom Hall After Two Decades, Quickly Get Stumbled

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was a mild surprise, learning that a brother and sister-in-law had began re-associating with jehovah's witnesses after at least 25 years of being away.

  the couple, of hispanic ethnicity, are in their early 60's, with their five children all grown and independent.

  the family had been considered nominal jws, infrequently attending meetings, rarely in field service, but using the annual convention as their family vacation.

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  Ecclesiastes 8:9 should be the JW theme. They are quick to apply this scripture to worldly people but looking at their "organization" it apply to them. I have seen elders treat people just like you described. Acting just like the Pharisees.
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  When the dam wall busts.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  some (especially witnesses) may wonder what brings us to places like this?.

  why is it that we have chosen to step away from the society that we once viewed as "the truth", despite the consequences for doing so?.

  well for any visitors to this site, or any other "apostate" sites, the answer is simple really:.

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  My husband was an elder and I wanted to research what the elder book said but not look at "his" copy so I googled the title of the elder book, sheparding the flock or whatever it's called and the Google search brought me here...my eyes were opened...that was 4 years ago...I also prayed and prayed for Jehovah to show me the way just like so many of you have mentioned in your comments, nothing at all from him. It is so amazing to me that most of my red flags thru the years are mentioned by other posters here, making me realize I wasn't the only one who had these red flags. I have been helped so much by so many of you, thank you😊
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  Can you relate?

  by TimeBandit in

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  2. friends

  i used to try really hard to fit in when i was an active, true blue jw.

  somehow it hardly ever paid off.

  time after time i attempted to mingle and make jw friends.

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  Then you are sitting at the meeting and those same hypocrites are quoting how the identifying mark of the true religion is love among themselves,... So how people who don't practice what they preach can even give these type of comments just floors me!
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  Your situation is exactly why I hide my iPad when family comes to visit and have never formally introduced myself here for fear that this exact scenario Will happen to me! My JW family does not have any respect for boundaries either!
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  The bigger picture

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been awake now for a good while.

  about a year.

  in that year i've done a lot of soul searching and thinking about god and religion etc.... as i'm sure most all of us have who've left this cult.

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  All or nothing

  Thank you for this post. This is almost exactly how I have been feeling lately. We have been "programmed" to constantly be waiting for a future time to live our lives. Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can be more content with the present? This has been my struggle since I have become awake.